I am not entirely sure that the distinction is really there, because I don’t think most people who pray are particularly expecting an obvious change in the world to result.
Wait, they’re not?
I totally thought that those who pray do in actual fact expect their prayers to be eventually rerouted to the recipient in some beneficial form. Like……….
I dunno, you just made it sound that “most people who pray” don’t…believe…in the power of prayer….??????
Could you explain what you meant by what you said a little more clearly? Because it sort of sounds like you’re saying “most people who pray” are NOT praying religiously (with actual expectation of result, due to their belief in the boots-on-the-ground motive power of their religion) but just sort of performing some kind of meditative, entirely-expected-to-remain-local thought-exercise.
Unless prayers are intended for the recipient’s eternal soul (that the recipient might stay strong and appropriately defended where it really counts in the face of adversity)?????? Like, THAT I could understand, that would be something you could pray about and believe in the ultimate utility of without expecting a change in the material world to result.
I’M SORRY I’M JUST DEEPLY CONFUSED AND ACTUALLY SORT OF UPSET for some reason, since I thought I understood something about religion (that people who pray do so in the spirit of lending a shoulder to a stuck cart, really truly honestly believing that their little bit of channeled strength is helping) and this post sort of knocked a load-bearing strut right out from under me.
Like, I’m aware that everybody’s specific beliefs are gonna be intensely personal, but what’s getting me is your “most.” How can most people who pray be doing so hopelessly, helplessly??? not believing in the power of it??? wh???
this probably doesnt count because i was a child at the time but when i was young and still christian i WOULD pray expecting results.
i remember praying for more time on my homework because i hadn’t finished it and when my teacher didn’t collect it the next day i went ‘it must be because i prayed!’
again i was a child at this time but i was brought up to believe that praying would have a result.