reasonandempathy:

keyhollow:

reasonandempathy:

keyhollow:

rafi-dangelo:

lol can’t let voter disenfranchisement, women’s rights, or concentration camps get in the way of playing Overwatch in the basement

What female rights have been taken? What set of citizens are in a concentration camp? Where are the camps? Who’s voter rights have been restricted?

See, I know key is popular and the topic is relevant enough that there’s a solid chance this will make its way through some circles.

Even then I really…It’s hard to find proper motivation to actually rebut the mountains of evidence either going by unknown or willfully ignored to make a list even remotely comprehensive enough, either for Trump or for Cruz.

Even ignoring the switch from “concentration camps” to “concentration camps for citizens”, as if the only time putting people into camps is bad is when you’re doing it to people recognized as citizens.

(side-note: Trump’s administration is actively trying to strip legal immigrants and naturalized citizens of their earned U.S. citizenship.)

I have no knowledge of any women’s rights that have been removed. Feel free to inform me. Notice I said removed.

Fine. Concentration camp at all. Any concentration camp in the us by the us for anyone in the us. And make sure it follows the proper definition.

The only revokation of citizenship I’m aware of is them going back through all of the old forms and tossing out the people that lied on their applications. You know, falsified data? Lied to get approved? And I do have mixed feelings on it, but it isn’t for voting, it’s due to fraud.

If there are mountains of evidence surely it wouldn’t bother you to toss a few links right?

I have no knowledge of any women’s rights that have been removed.

Trump

State department stops promoting or focusing on women’s rights internationally

Global gag rule puts U.S. international funds explicitly against abortion access in other countries

Rescinds Birth Control access through the ACA

Nominated Kavanaugh

Cruz

Wants to limit access to birth control under ACA

Cruz tries to pass an unconstitutional bill to end abortion access

Voted for Kavanaugh

Any concentration camp in the us by the us for anyone in the us.

You do realize that a number of prisons in the U.S. fit this bill, right Another article.  

Skipping that, though:

Trump

‘THEY WON’T BE RELEASED’ Donald Trump announces plans to build tent cities to detain thousands of migrants as critics brand them ‘concentration camps’

Concentration Camps for Kids: An Open Letter

Call them what they are: The Trump concentration camps of 2018

Cruz

Inside Texas’s New Tent City for Children

Ted Cruz again defends family separation, as Beto O’Rourke plans vigil at Tornillo tent camp

Who’s voter rights have been restricted

…I mean…

You

You can’t be serious

Trump

Trump administration’s voter suppression attempts ahead of midterms are not only ‘morally wrong,’ they’re illegal

Trump called for all voters to present photo-ID, a rule critics say is unnecessary and damaging

Trump appears not to understand grocery shopping in latest push for voter ID laws

Cruz

Sen. Cruz Rallies Support for Texas Voter ID Law

How the GOP Candidates Are Blocking the Vote: Ted Cruz is leading the charge, but all of them support tough new voting restrictions.

And yes.  Voter ID Laws, in their current Republican form, are racist and aimed at stripping rights from voters.  That’s not hyperbole, that’s what the Judiciary says.

The only revokation of citizenship I’m aware of is them going back through all of the old forms and tossing out the people that lied on their applications.

Do…

Firstly, you’re just wrong on what you posit Trump is doing and what it means.

The new task force will produce many more such cases. Indeed, the creation of the task force itself is undoing the naturalization of the more than twenty million naturalized citizens in the American population by taking away their assumption of permanence. All of them—all of us—are second-class citizens now. The President calls immigrants “animals.” The Attorney General presumesthat everyone crossing the border—or at least the southern border—is a criminal.

Secondly, what do you think removing Birthright Citizenship means?

In the most favorable reading of it, not that Trump gave any actual details to it (so every single aspect of the conversation about this has to be put in quotation marks because Fuckwit in Chief has no plan or definition for anything), children of two non-citizen immigrants would lose their citizenship.

Not illegal immigrants.  Non-citizen immigrants.  Even if both of your parents are here fully and entirely legally, the child would lose their citizenship.  If the legal resident parents then used their children’s citizenship to apply for their own, their citizenship would also be revoked.  Even if we only look at explicitly second-generation immigrants, that’s up to 30 million people whose citizenship would potentially get stripped away.

Because if we end birthright citizenship and your parents weren’t citizens when you were born, you would lose your citizenship.  Especially if there’s now a new task force ensuring every form is entirely perfect retroactively.

That’s how it works.


I want to take this last second as an opportunity to address something you did in both of your posts, Key.

What female rights have been taken? What set of citizens are in a concentration camp? Where are the camps? Who’s voter rights have been restricted?

I have no knowledge of any women’s rights that have been removed. Feel free to inform me. Notice I said removed.

You are sitting there asking for things that happened in the past as if these aren’t people who publicly broadcast what they want to do.

“He hasn’t repealed Roe v Wade” isn’t a response to “he wants to repeal Roe v Wade”.  “What’s been taken from us” isn’t a response to “these people want to strip our rights from us”

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